[Fling] Updated TypeResolver

[Grant Davies]

John
 
completely agree, and I think this is a function of the assetloader and not of spring which was my contention, we can talk to chris about it when he gets his butt out of bed :) lol
 
Grant

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From: John Grden [mailto:neoriley at gmail.com]
Sent: Mon 5/22/2006 9:20 AM
To: Grant Davies
Cc: Chris Allen; Fling at osflash.org; Samuel Agesilas
Subject: Re: Updated TypeResolver


yeah, I'm not sure what you mean with all your tech-no talk ;)

I'm just saying that there has to be a relationship between the assets AND they location within the flash presentation.  so, an XML representation is an obvious solution. 

the config files we have look something like this:

<root>
    <page name="home" src="home_%BANDWIDTH%" target="main.content.home">
         <children>
              <page name="news" src=... >
                     <assets>
                           <asset type="movie" src="home_bg.swf" src="..." target="..." /> 
                           <asset type="sound" src="home_bg_music_%BANDWIDTH%.mp3" src="..." target="..." />
                           <asset type="Bitmap" src="home_bg.jgp" src="..." target="..." /> 
                     </assets>
                     <page name="archives" src=... />
              </page>
         </children>
    </page>
</root>

See how this works?  Now the framework knows the relationships, and the assets per section.  There can certainly be global assets as well. 

Does this make sense?


On 5/22/06, Grant Davies <grant at bluetube.com> wrote: 

	That makes sense but would you use the spring bean loading format for that, I don't think so, I think this is a layer on top of spring, maybe your transition manager is created by spring but I think the loading of those assets is a none spring xml file and tends to be applicaiton specific.  We could come up with a generic format for loading a set of assets based on an xml file but I don't think it would look like a spring config file, maybe I'm wrong I haven't done a great deal with spring yet.
	 
	Grant

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	From: John Grden [mailto:neoriley at gmail.com]
	Sent: Mon 5/22/2006 9:04 AM
	To: Grant Davies
	Cc: Chris Allen; Fling at osflash.org; Samuel Agesilas
	Subject: Re: Updated TypeResolver
	
	
	
	actually, I do this all the time with the blitz sites.  We have a config.xml file and the entire site is laid out (SWF's, FLV's, Bitmaps - all assets).  The heiarchy is completely spelled out by the config and is what the TransitionManager (the next peice in our puzzle) uses to manage the elegant loading/transitioning of parent/child SWF's. 
	
	Example:
	
	let's say you have this loaded:
	
	home.news.archives
	
	And you want to now load:
	
	home.games.gallery.xbox 
	
	TransitionManager will elegantly unload in order archives, then news then preload everything needed for games.gallery.xbox.  You can also tell it to preload assets FIRST , THEN transition everything out.
	
	The xml also has information about bandwidth profiling and could even provide localization support: 
	
	<asset type="movie" src="movies/home_%BANDWIDTH%" target="main.containers.home" />
	<asset type="movie" src="movies/home_%LANGUAGE%" target="main.containers.home " />
	
	So, since XML is really the universal layer, I say that's what we support - however that XML is derived, who cares, as long as it meets the spec.
	
	Make sense?
	
	
	On 5/22/06, Grant Davies <grant at bluetube.com> wrote: 

		I'm wondering how useful it is to load a bunch of assets from an xml file... I can see if if you were writing an image viewer or something but not sure about every day use.  I know in all my projects I want a group of assets loaded on demand not really pre-determined by xml, are you sure you're not trying to fit a round peg in a square hole ?
		 
		Grant
		 

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		From: Chris Allen [mailto:mrchrisallen at gmail.com]
		
		Sent: Sun 5/21/2006 11:32 AM
		To: Grant Davies
		Cc: Fling at osflash.org; John Grden; Samuel Agesilas
		Subject: Re: Updated TypeResolver
		
		
		

		On 5/19/06, Grant Davies <grant at bluetube.com> wrote:
		>
		> rock on dude, nice job, did you ever figure out that whole boolean isssue ?
		>
		Yep, I  sure did. Most of those problems were from using typeof
		instead of instanceof in the wrong places and the ordering of these.
		There was also the problem of me being a a dumb ass on occasion too.
		;-) The unit test proved to be very useful to verify that all of the
		types are being determined correctly.
		
		> Let me know what you need me to work on next..
		
		Well, I was thinking that it would be great to work on getting
		AssetLoader to load via a configuration file (xml for example). So,
		with this in mind, we can take the Spring approach and work on a
		simple IoC setup. We will need a good class loader, another class that
		reads the xml file and a basic ApplicationContext implementation. Luke
		had made a start to this a while ago, I will be glad to share with you
		his implementation. In fact I will just post it in SVN in another
		section so you can see it on Monday morning. I would prefer to keep
		the same syntax that Spring uses for these files. e.g. <beans><bean>
		etc...
		
		Other obvious things that need to be finished are the other Assets.
		John is working on the Video/FLV asset and perhaps he can whip up the
		LoadVars one as well. I will finish the AssetManager class on Monday.
		
		Let me know your thoughts on all of this.
		
		-Chris
		




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	John Grden - Blitz 




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