[Free] Name change ?
Patrick Mineault
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Tue Sep 13 14:13:38 PDT 2005
I think red5 is a pretty meaningless name to me. Vivo is the name of an
old video codec. 'Livre' means book in French, and 'Bijou' mean jewel,
and they both sound pretty bad for a native speaker. I vote for OpenCS.
Patrick
john grden wrote:
> alright well, that's 4 solid Red5's
>
> Shall we end this thread and go with it?
>
> On 9/13/05, *Aldo Bucchi* < aldo.bucchi at gmail.com
> <mailto:aldo.bucchi at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> Taking into account your bias on red5, I think we can take a
> different
> perspective.
>
> - this is an os iniciative so the geek appeal is valuable
> - and regarding communication... red5 sounds like a "codename", so
> eventually there would be no problem to roll out a fantasy package
> name for it in the future, when it reaches a broader audience, and
> they can both coexist ( VivoServer aka red5 )
>
> and it also makes nice package names..
>
> org.red5.rtmp.*
>
> Ok, I bought it.
> My Vote for red5 as the codename then.
>
>
>
> On 9/13/05, Chris Allen <mrchrisallen at gmail.com
> <mailto:mrchrisallen at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Aldo,
> >
> > This is all very useful. Thanks. I would say that red5 does
> have inherent
> > meaning ever since George Lucas created Star Wars. But you are
> right that
> > it isn't quite as obvious as Vivo and doesn't really communicate
> intention.
> >
> > Vivo may not be a bad choice, but there is something so cool
> about Red5
> > that I can't just overlook it. It might have enough sticky
> originality to
> > make it the best choice so far. It does all of what you mention
> except for
> > communicate intention; perhaps this is good enough.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> >
> > On 9/13/05, Aldo Bucchi <aldo.bucchi at gmail.com
> <mailto:aldo.bucchi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Off the top of my head, some guidelines I have found useful when
> > > looking up names. I work as a financial services consultant,
> within a
> > > core financial services technology company ( that is, we build
> core
> > > banking systems ). And every now and then we have to create a new
> > > name.
> > >
> > > - no Buzzwords
> > > open, free, enterprise... etc. They carry wrong associations,
> and seem
> > > a lazy choice ( too obvious ).
> > >
> > > - Search Engine friendly name
> > > someone who hears it in a conference, meeting, etc should be
> able to
> > > google it in the first try. he will probably add "flash" and
> "server"
> > > to the search, so that narrows it already. But if you were to
> name the
> > > program FREE... good bye lead.
> > >
> > > - Sticky, Original
> > > The goal is to create a long lasting first time impression.
> you might
> > > only have one shot at getting the name into the customers
> head, and it
> > > should stay there until he acts upon the received information.
> > >
> > > - Communicate intention!!!
> > > What is the VERB that the product executes??
> > > Connect, Stream, Flow, Sync, etc. Focus on verbs rather than
> nouns...
> > > or verb-able nouns.
> > > What will your system be like when you use the product??
> > > Harmonic, alive ( vivo ), unbounded, active, etc...
> > > The human mind works by associating concepts. The name of a
> product
> > > should be the central topic, to which all other information can be
> > > appended naturally by association.
> > >
> > > - Use other languages
> > > If you still end up with a buzz word, try to translate it...
> latin,
> > > spanish, etc, as long as you keep a common root.
> > >
> > > - Short
> > > unless you want to be programming against
> org.mylongdumbname.core.* ,
> > > try to keep it short!
> > >
> > > - Appeal to personal posession
> > > Why do you thing MySAP has been chosen as the name for one of the
> > > biggest products in history? Users can relate to it faster, it
> speeds
> > > the "getting into the customer's head" process, in a very
> childish but
> > > effective way.
> > >
> > > BTW, I personally really like the word "ViVO" !
> > > It is sticky and communicates, eases association.
> > > still needs a companion though...
> > >
> > > ViVOServer
> > > VivaFlash! ( jaj, spanish exclamation... very sticky and
> communicative!! )
> > > etc...
> > >
> > > I don't like red5, as it makes association difficult, there is no
> > > inherent meaning to it. Granted it is short and sticky.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps with the brainstorming.
> > >
> > > best,
> > > aldo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/13/05, john grden <neoriley at gmail.com
> <mailto:neoriley at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > I'm partial of course, but it is cool in the sense that it:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Is fun
> > > > 2. Is pretty recognizable and immediately connects with people
> > > > 3. It represents the impossible mission
> > > >
> > > > I just think it's simply inspiring really
> > > >
> > > > my 2 cents
> > > >
> > > > ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/13/05, Chris Allen < mrchrisallen at gmail.com
> <mailto:mrchrisallen at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > > Okay, after much thought on the subject I feel the best
> name for the
> > > > project is one that John suggested initially:
> > > > >
> > > > > Red5
> > > > >
> > > > > The call name used by Luke Skywalker in Star Wars. It
> really fits the
> > > > spirit of what we are trying to do here, and it sounds cool.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, and red5.org <http://red5.org> is available. Thoughts
> and opinions on this one?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/13/05, clemos <cl3mos at gmail.com
> <mailto:cl3mos at gmail.com> > wrote:
> > > > > > On 9/13/05, Tim Beynart < tim at timbeynart.com
> <mailto:tim at timbeynart.com>> wrote:
> > > > > > > How about this: whoever is the first person to
> actually get
> > something
> > > > > > > working gets to pick the name?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hehe
> > > > > > ok so I'm off, now :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but before leaving this thread forever, I'd like to say
> that the
> > name
> > > > > > doesn't need to be 'serious' to prove the product is
> 'serious'...
> > > > > > and I think that something like a nickname (or silly
> name) can make
> > > > > > the product more friendly, and thus more attractive; and
> moreover
> > much
> > > > > > easier to recognize if it's silly _and_ original.
> > > > > > I don't think GNU products (which is some kind of silly
> name) are
> > > > > > 'recreational'...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > clemos
> > > > > >
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