[osflash] Free compiler (was FW: [Fwd: Re: MTASC Future])

[David Mendels]

Hi,

A few months ago, Claus wrote on this list: "unless macromedia releases
their compiler for free (unlikely)"

I replied:  ""or unless macromedia releases their compiler for free
(unlikely)"  I won't say this is or is not likely, but I would guess
that much of what we have released lately (a public alpha, a cmd line
compiler, an eclipse based tool, the Flex framework with that tool, etc)
would have been considered "unlikely" by many even a few weeks ago, and
yet here they are.  Your guess is pretty reasonable here, but we like
surprising ourselves too :)"

Well, I couldn't be more specific at the time, but I am pleased to let
folks know now that we are indeed releasing the compiler and framework
and limited version of the FES server for free:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060201/20060131006223.html?.v=1  -;)


Regards,
David
Adobe



> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [osflash] MTASC Future
> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:43:56 +0200
> From: Claus Wahlers <claus.wahlers at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: claus at codeazur.com,        Open Source Flash Mailing List 
> <osflash at osflash.org>
> To: Open Source Flash Mailing List <osflash at osflash.org>
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> 
> >  It's unfortunate to hear this. Is this because you are 
> thinking that 
> > too much of the syntax would need to change? Or is it more 
> because you 
> > would need compatability with other flash libraries to make 
> it worthwhile to do?
> > Or something else?
> >
> >  Based on what Nicolas has been doing so far, changes wouldn't be 
> > frivolous and largely for the better, but I understand that 
> often the 
> > reliability of compatability is the major driving force for 
> a library. 
> > I'm just asking so that I understand if that's what it is.
> 
> i planned to start developing DENG2 end of this year. this 
> would have been no problem, i can start developing with 
> macromedias tools today, and later, when MTASC for AS3 would 
> have been available, switch, as we did with DENG1 (first 
> Flash MX, then Kinetic Fusion).
> 
> now i have to wait until MTASC for [xxx] becomes available 
> *and* becomes mature enough for it's bytecode to run 
> seamlessly on the 8.5 player. i can't forsee when this will 
> be the case. in any case, i have to wait, because i won't 
> rewrite DENG a third time. the problem is that i don't know 
> how much longer i can wait, because then i may focus on 
> something else i spend my free time on.
> 
> i also can't rely on the MMC alone, because my contributors 
> (who are not "flashers") are never going to buy it. i need an 
> open source compiler. i can't tell my contributors to buy a 
> compiler to compile code they gracefully contribute, and DENG 
> contributors are hard enough to find.
> 
> unless i find some angel investment, or unless macromedia 
> releases their compiler for free (unlikely), there is not 
> much of a chance i start porting DENG using macromedia tools 
> alone (this would probably become a one-man-show then, as in 
> the flash developer world DENG is of not much interest). i 
> lost a lot of money developing DENG1 already (2 years 
> fulltime), and this definately won't happen again.
> 
> summarizing, there is a small chance i'm going to do it, but 
> only a very small one, depending on what happens in the 
> future, which i'm unable to forsee at this point..
> cheers,
> claus.
> 
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