[osflash] New osflash project? FlashWiki?
claus at codeazur.com.br
Tue Sep 5 17:15:11 EDT 2006
Of course, all of that is a lot of work, basically because today we
don't yet have the proper tools for Flash that make such things easier.
As Hank pointed out in a different mail, and i perfectly agree with him,
*we* have to push the limits, *we* have to experiment with new ideas. It
doesn't help much if people keep on saying 'this is a stupid idea' or
'this is not what flash was designed to do'. With Flash Player 9,
nothing holds us back to do things we would never have dreamt about in
Flash 8 days.
And, making a Flash frontend accessible is a lot of work. Always. No
matter what methods you use to accomplish that.
I'm working on DENG 2, but only whenever i find some free time to do so,
so it might take some significant amount of time yet to release
something halfway useful (i'm thinking in years rather than months here)
unless i get some help.
I think it's important to push Flash more towards standards in general.
This would open Flash to a very very wide audience. For example, take
XForms. A standard by the W3C that didn't *really* take off yet, because
there are no mainstream implementations out there. The W3C members who
are in the forms business (a billion dollar industry) are dying to see a
cross browser/platform and zero install XForms renderer. DENG 1 did just
that, but it was a) not feature complete and b) too slow (Flash Player
6). Flash Player 9 would be the solution here. And that's just one
example of many.
We need to innovate and stop thinking 'banners'.
Arnoud Bos wrote:
> Hi Claus / Chris,
> You guys are right but it means making 2 front-ends right? (xhtml, which is
> in fact a site already and then a flash presentation layer on top of it). Of
> course this isn't really the case if you just want to use the xhtml for data
> only... But adding a stylesheet to XHTML seems a lot less work than showing
> the xhtml in flash... You need to parse it again to find certain nodes, do
> stuff with it etc...
> I knew these kind of things were possible (see also "ripple" on osflash from
> peter hall), but it seems a lot more work. But I'll have a look at seffs.
> Didn't know it. It seems interesting so I'll give her a testdrive.
> I like the way you (Claus) are always heading to standards. Makes me think
> about deng (2 ?). Now that was a nice project...
> Any news about that project? Is it definitely exit?
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