[osflash] [OT] one editor for everything (emacs)

[Corey Bissaillon]

  /me $.02 == vi (remote),  EditPlus/ConText(win32),  TextWrangler 
(osx).    For local java dev:  Eclipse.  Flash 8 Professional for  
flash.    I think Emacs is what they use on terra-ists at GITMO (?)

That and $3.50 will get you a fancy-pants cuppa joe!   :-D   Happy  
New Year all!


- Corey





On Jan 1, 2007, at 4:46 PM, hank williams wrote:

>
>
> If GUI floats your boat, eclipse particularly (and other similar  
> editors) are great tools to be able to program many languages in  
> the same editor. If non-GUI is your thing, emacs or vim are fantastic.
>
> jtgxbass,
>
> If you read my posts, you will see I agree with this. If you  
> actually go back to the first post and my response, the question is  
> whether it is a good idea (obviously in the general sense) for  
> someone to center their development around one editor, and Emacs in  
> specific as the Pragmatic Programmer authors do.
>
> My summarized response is, that for most people, this does not make  
> sense primarily because so much work has gone into specialized  
> editors that really fit a *given language* like a glove. Moreover,  
> Most people have decided that they like GUI and don't like command  
> line only. But even if you don't like GUI's, by using Emacs, in  
> Java, for example, you give up lots of invaluable language specific  
> help. These are really two *separate* points. As I have stated  
> before, if you don't like GUIs, Emacs (or similar) is a totally  
> appropriate tool. It is even appropriate for many specialized tasks  
> and for circumstances (like a terminal window) where a GUI is not  
> possible.
>
> But evangelizing Emacs as a mainstream tool for all programming  
> editing (as the Pragmatic Programmer folks do) just doesn't make  
> sense for most people. Beyond the benefits of language specific  
> editors, most folks have long since voted with their dollars and  
> their usage patterns that GUI is much more comfortable than command  
> line. It is so obvious it almost seems silly to say it (though the  
> initial question asked in this thread proves otherwise). This is  
> not Coke vs Pepsi, its orange juice vs castor oil. Even if you  
> argue that castor oil is be better for you, most folks just cant  
> get it down. That said, there is nothing wrong with preferring the  
> command line. And if you love Emacs, or love LISP, or just don't  
> like mice, or don't have enough memory for Eclipse or whatever,  
> nothing wrong with Emacs. But don't position it as a mainstream  
> option appropriate for most programmers for the bulk of their work  
> in 2007. Most programmers find the option unpalatable.
>
> It seems odd to me that there is any argument about the fact that  
> command line editing is not mainstream. But as Nicolas correctly  
> stated, people do love their editing tools. I guess no one wants to  
> feel they are on an island, and everyone wants to feel that their  
> solution can be and should be used by others. But it is probably  
> beyond any reasonable expectation to suggest to the average GUI  
> editor user to switch to a command line editor.
>
> chill
>
>
> I am quite chill, thank you very much.
>
> Regards
> Hank
>
>
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