[osflash] [OT] one editor for everything (emacs)
tim.scollick at gmail.com
Thu Jan 4 10:04:26 EST 2007
As an aside, I've learned quite a bit during this "discussion / debate". As
a bad developer with a love of wizards, I know a lot more about emacs than I
did 3 days ago and may someday even use it, just like the Pragmatic
Programmer told me to do so many years ago.
On 1/4/07, Nicolas Cannasse <ncannasse at motion-twin.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Nicolas!
> > >
> > > I wonder which editor you use for programming Ocaml? What about
> > > (Before you developed haxeFD :)
> > Please let this thread dying peacefully :)
> > Nicolas
> > _
> > I find it fascinating and disturbing that you and others find the art of
> > spirited discussion (not flaming - i.e. insulting each other and making
> > ridiculous statements) distasteful. I personally find all the "war"
> > metaphors that people have used to discuss this thread as troubling.
> Just a few words.
> I'm not against any kind of discussion on the OSFlash list. I haven't
> followed the thread in details, but there are some common things in all
> IDE threads.
> In general, people tend to be very conservative about the tools they are
> using, and that's a perfectly normal / human reaction. Whatever the IDE
> functionalities, you need to spend some time getting used to it, and
> once you are used to some IDE, it's difficult to change since you feel
> you will have to invest a lot of time into getting used to another one
> (while it's actually quite quick).
> So when some conservative people that all have strong opinions about
> their own IDE and lack knowledge about other people arguments gather, it
> tends to turn into a rather uninteresting discussion, with a very high
> noise/signal ratio.
> Nobody prevent you from debating things on the list, but it's rather
> difficult for people that are just a little bit interested in the topic
> to follow the thread and spent a good amount of time reading the rather
> long mails and their rather long responses that are sent. So such a
> debate is in general only read by the few that are participating to it,
> which is very far from the traditional usage of a mailing list, where
> things posted should concern most of the subscribers.
> I think there's a difference between a "discussion" and a "debate", and
> while I like to take part in the first, I don't in the second, unless I
> also have a strong opinion about the subject. Making "stop the flames"
> comments is also a way to calm down spirits that get sometimes quickly
> heated up in a debate.
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