[osflash] hello + request
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Thu Jan 3 11:54:01 PST 2008
Mark Winterhalder ha scritto:
> On Jan 3, 2008 8:04 PM, Alvise Nicoletti <lists at alvisenicoletti.com> wrote:
>> Guys... I developed applications for three years with Delphi on Windows
>> and Lazarus on Linux, I also have very good skills with php and mysql,
>> but I'm not understanding a word of what you wrote ;)
> Yet another reason for an Introduction to SWF for non-Flashers wiki page... :)
>> So, starting from the beginning:
>> we all produce compiled small "running" applications containing multiple
>> audio-visual and vectorial contents runnable from the software called
>> "adobe flash player" now installable on all browsers.
> OK. We call that compiled application with vector and other content
> included "SWF".
Yes, I de-compiled some flash .swf files and played a little with the
old trial versions of adobe flash.
>> I have no fear to use open source software, also the commercial
>> alternative is very expensive, but I want to be sure that I will be able
>> to start and finish my project without any compromise and renounce.
> It's entirely possible, but if you need animations, as you indicated,
> then Flash (as in the Adobe product) would be well worth the
> investment. Embedding graphics (png/jpg/svg) works well with Swfmill,
> but using it for animations isn't practical -- it generates an SWF
> from XML, and you'd have to do all transformations "manually". If you
> need animations and want easy layouting, then Flash is still the way
> to go.
> For writing the code I'd definitely recommend something else, though.
> Flash's built-in editor is no fun, at least last time I checked, which
> admittibly was a long time ago.
Yes, for me graphics is very important, cause It's the final part of my
However the "For writing the code I'd definitely recommend something
else" phrase is making me think.
I also felt the same way looking for actionscript inside flash, it's
definitely not a coding software, but a software for graphics.
Is there a way to do the code with some open source (and better coding)
software and "embedding the graphics" done with flash?
However, at this point I'm curious to understand what the hell does
adobe flash player runs, if there are so many softwares for it that can
be used in so many different ways.
>> So, coming back to my project, will haXe be able to make me create
>> classes of the content of a website, taking it from xml (to parse) files
>> with ajax.php calls?
>> After that, I will need also to attach this structure and data to a
>> nice-to-see graphics and animations, what about the "graphical" part of
>> the IDEs you listed me?
> They don't have a graphical part. You can embed graphics (with
> Swfmill, for example) made with other programs, but as I mentioned
> above there is no good solution for animations.
This is sad :(
I prefer coding to designing, but I need to build, at the end, nice
looking websites with some good libraries behind them.
> The haXe compiler can compile haXe source code into an existing SWF or
> use one as a library (i.e., include an existing SWF with graphical
> assets) and you can place and move those on the screen (the "Stage").
> There is also mod_neko for Apache, so you could write the server side
> with haXe, too (it can compile to SWF, for the Neko VM, or generate
> request from PHP, depending on what you want to do AMF3 would be an
> alternative (another format to transfer data to an SWF app, more
I still had no time to do a phpinfo() on my cheap hosting, but I'm
looking for a large-scale solution so I have to use the less software I can.
This haxe looks good, but I'm sure it's not a base library of apache-php
so I can't do a project with it at the time, neither I have a hosting
with the control of the machine.
It would be useful only at home.
I know that a "hand" in the server-side would be useful, but I think I
can handle this only with php, xml, parsing and actionscript hedackes.
Is there somewere I can get started?
p.s. I also hate actionscript's syntax.
Java is thousands times better.
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