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<font size="-1"><font face="Tahoma">I agree with Keith Peters on this -
it's down to business and I guess Adobe have realised that the majority
of people developing on Linux would be coders so this would be the
first market that they satisfy...<br>
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Here is my take on Linux vs Windows situation:<br>
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I would consider Linux, but I don't think it is marketed as an
alternative to Windows/Mac on the desktop - what I mean is that I know
Linux is out there, because I have used it, but I don't know which
flavour is going to be suitable because there are so many. <br>
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My use of Linux involved creating, maintaining & repairing
webservers, databases and heavyweight server oriented applications and
I got fed up of having to download and compile 6 different lib's just
to get PHP image functions working, but Linux was the only machine that
managed to still serve 75% of its websites whilst we patched all the
software that had been wiped out when a hard disk dropped an entire
platter - try that on Windows from a remote location. <br>
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In this arena I have found Windows is equally frustrating to work with
so unless you are an uber geek with a deep understanding of these
systems you are going to suffer. I am not a good 'sysadmin', but I
have had to dive in and get my hands dirty because there was no-one
else around to help.<br>
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I would choose Linux for enterprise / server applications everytime
based on cost & more importantly my perception of it's
reliability. <br>
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One thing that has seriously put me off Linux with the desktop side of
things - again this is a perception - is only just starting to get
good. It took me 2 days to get Gnome up and running on RH9 2 years ago
and when I got it running, it looked only marginally better than
Windows 3.1 - that sucked. <br>
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The problem is that I still don't know any better because no-one is
telling me or, showing me that Linux is probably miles better now. I
am fairly lazy when switching my OS because although Windows is a pain
in the a**, I have a million and one other things to learn about -
adding learning a new OS to the equation would seriously hamper my
development time and hence my ability to earn money.<br>
<br>
If someone could demonstrate that I can transition over from Windows
with only a slight bit of fuss, maintain my own computer without
thinking about it and still use Thunderbird, Firefox, a nice tool like
Flash Develop & Eclipse I would seriously think about switching. I
am probably going to reach a fork in the road soon anyway because I
have recently had the misfortune to experience Vista - on my partners
new laptop. She now expects me to support this and it is only common
sense that enables me to do the basic stuff because the muppets at MS
have moved important things around so configuring Ethernet may be easy,
but you have to find the properties page first, etc. If I am given the
choice between Vista and Linux, I may opt for Linux, but I will still
be stuffed for FLA graphics development, so may have to maintain 2
OS's, which annoys me again and detracts from the benefits of switching.<br>
<br>
HTH, even though it is OT...<br>
<br>
Glen<br>
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Martin Wood-Mitrovski wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I agree 100%
About a month ago i finally had enough and moved to linux full time, id always
had a linux machine here for running apache / mysql and used it for various
other stuff, but i couldnt handle windows anymore for development. cmd is a joke
and cygwin just didnt cut it.
now im running ubuntu and only use xp running under virtualbox so i can use the
Flash IDE to work with .fla's.
id happily pay for decent software on linux, although how many people would I
cant say. I guess its a case of the chicken and the egg, if the software isnt
there people wont move and if the people arent there then the software wont move
although what does give me some hope is seeing that Adobe have been putting some
work into FlexBuilder on linux and of course the flash player, so its obvious
its not being ignored, just not moving as fast as I would like.
I was thinking that maybe this new wave of mini-computers (e.g sub-notebooks
like the Asus eee and OLPC XO-1) that come with linux installed will provide a
bigger incentive for the production of linux software. Thats the kind of
computer that I would buy for my daughter (when she is a little bit older)
here's hoping :)
martin.
btw, dont know what terminal you use in ubuntu but i prefer xfce4-terminal over
any others. its worth a try :)
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
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