Can any one can sort the problem of 5080 port not connecting from client part.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:30 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osflash-request@osflash.org">osflash-request@osflash.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Re: new free HD Player (Moazzam Khan)<br>
2. Re: new free HD Player (Alias Cummins)<br>
3. Re: new free HD Player (Schell)<br>
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:31:24 -0500<br>
From: "Moazzam Khan" <<a href="mailto:moazzamk@gmail.com">moazzamk@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [osflash] new free HD Player<br>
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Just to be fair, developers need to make money too. So, they sell the<br>
software they make. It's great that there are people who want to put<br>
their work out there for others to improve and use without paying<br>
anything. But, I don't think there is anything wrong with charging for<br>
your software. It just like any other profession. You don't always see<br>
a carpenter giving away free wood chairs, or a watch maker giving out<br>
free watches. It's good that people are charitable and generous but<br>
they have to make a living too :).<br>
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If money was absent in the equation, then you would have the barter<br>
system. It would still lead to the same result. I am not sure if a<br>
society that has everything for free can survive for long. You get<br>
everything you want, why work? Very few would even want to excel<br>
because their excelling at something won't have a direct impact on<br>
their lives (except some pats on the back). I don't mean to say that<br>
people won't be passionate about anything but they will probably not<br>
be enough for a society to exist in a stable form.<br>
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- Moazzam<br>
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On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Infos E-Blokos <<a href="mailto:infos@e-blokos.com">infos@e-blokos.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Rost,<br>
><br>
> in Open Source community there are a lot of people who dream of a new world<br>
> without profit. I agree at 100% to this ideology, unless they forgot that<br>
> it's impossible in the real world<br>
> as long as money and lobbies will exist....<br>
> two very good movies done by Peter Joseph on this subject<br>
> <a href="http://www.zeitgeist.com" target="_blank">http://www.zeitgeist.com</a><br>
> even if the souces of the film are not available, it's free to download.<br>
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> Franck<br>
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> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: Rostislav Siryk<br>
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:14 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [osflash] new free HD Player<br>
>>> I'll stop definetly to talk about my work here.<br>
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> Please don't go this way. Even rude discussion helps to see the actual<br>
> reality and what's going on better. Sometimes it's hard to believe that<br>
> there's no offense, but please don't stop posting.<br>
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> Rost<br>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:56:59 -0000<br>
From: "Alias Cummins" <<a href="mailto:Alias.Cummins@bbc.co.uk">Alias.Cummins@bbc.co.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [osflash] new free HD Player<br>
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Or, you could just release your source, and then I'm sure people would<br>
be happy to talk about it?<br>
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Your call, really.<br>
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Regards<br>
Alias<br>
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>> I'll stop definetly to talk about my work here.<br>
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Please don't go this way. Even rude discussion helps to see the actual<br>
reality and what's going on better. Sometimes it's hard to believe that<br>
there's no offense, but please don't stop posting.<br>
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Rost<br>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:30:04 -0800<br>
From: Schell <<a href="mailto:efsubenovex@gmail.com">efsubenovex@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [osflash] new free HD Player<br>
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I don't mean to hijack the conversation away from HD players or flaming, but<br>
I really like this subject ;)<br>
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>>I am not sure if a<br>
society that has everything for free can survive for long. You get<br>
everything you want, why work? Very few would even want to excel<br>
because their excelling at something won't have a direct impact on<br>
their lives (except some pats on the back).<br>
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In my understanding of a free and open society, at least one that's based on<br>
resources as opposed to money, all the basic necessities of life are<br>
provided for through modular, sustainable compounds. The people that would<br>
work at these compounds would do so for the benefit of the community. Had<br>
everyone decided to space out all day every day and never contribute to<br>
society, the society would fail and everybody's standard of living falls. So<br>
the drive to succeed and excel would be to directly affect the quality of<br>
life of everyone in your community, as opposed to simply you and your<br>
family's lives. The barter system would hold up as a necessity, "You have<br>
lot's of energy but no means to produce iron? Here is some iron, we have too<br>
much. Please give us some energy, we have a deficit in that department."<br>
Hoarding resources as wealth hurts society as a whole in this situation [and<br>
probably does in our respective societies as well] but since there is no<br>
monetary value applied to such resources, hoarding is unnattractive due to<br>
the demurrage incurred. Resources tend to degrade as they sit unused, making<br>
them less valuable. I think the real problem or downside is that these<br>
systems are really vulnerable to violence, warlords, etc. There's no budget<br>
for a military here and it seems likely that outside forces would be very<br>
interested in your resources. But I think humans are smart enough to work<br>
out a successful system, we'd just need to dedicate some time to it, but who<br>
has time? I don't.<br>
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Schell Scivally<br>
<a href="http://blog.efnx.com" target="_blank">http://blog.efnx.com</a><br>
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