[Papervision3D] (offtopic) NYC Workshop weekend

Thu Nov 29 15:01:14 PST 2007

Hopefully, very soon, correct z rendering will work in different flavors.
After 2.0 though.

On Nov 29, 2007 11:10 PM, John Grden <neoriley at gmail.com> wrote:

> EXCELLNT POINT Jake - yeah to be able to work with your meshes right there
> with a preview of how Flash/PV3D will render it would be awesome.
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 2:10 PM, Jake Lewis < jakelewis3d at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If Swift3D's authors want to be really PV3D friendly, I'd suggest they
> > provide a toggle in their editor that switches zbuffer off, perspective
> > correction off, and Z sorts the triangles. The first 2 of these are trivial,
> > and writing a Z sort is pretty basic too.  Then the modeller can easily spot
> > any PV3D artifacts without having to export and view in Flash, and fine tune
> > the mesh to an acceptable balance of polygons/artifacts.
> >
> > Jake
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2007 2:23 PM, John Grden <neoriley at gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > > I tell yah, I was really excited about after I tried it the first
> > > time.  Swift cost ($295 or something like that) alone makes it a no
> > > brainer.  It imports 3DS files, Illustrator files and allows you to export
> > > as DAE/Collada.  Not only does it do that, it also spits out an FLA an
> > > Main.as file for you so all you have to do is open the FLA in Flash
> > > and compile.  You'll see it right off the bat.  The latest version has some
> > > extra code to allow you to rotate the model around that's included with that
> > > exported FLA.  very very cool.
> > >
> > > The exported Collada file looks great so far.   I imported a 3DS file
> > > of a star fighter I'd purchased online, and it created a perfect DAE file
> > > from it.  I was ready to go in Flash in no time.
> > >
> > > That AIR logo I created looked great in Swift3D's export.  The final
> > > that I used was from 3D studio max, but that's becuase I hadn't used swift
> > > enough and I needed some control over the UVmapping.  But importing the
> > > Illustrator file I'd exported from Flash IDE worked just perfectly.  It
> > > extruded it and looked awesome.
> > >
> > > So, my comments back to the swift guys has been heavily around
> > > UVMapping/editing.  They HAVE to come up with a great editor.  It's simply
> > > the other 50% of the equation for a good solution for the type of work we're
> > > doing with 3D in Flash right now.  Right now, they don't have much in the
> > > way of editing textures on the models and as far as I know, they have no way
> > > of editing UV's.  The good news is, they're very cool guys and really
> > > motivated, and have indicated they'll take our suggestions seriously.
> > >
> > > *BTW - if you're going to be at the NYC class, we have 2 free copies
> > > to give away of Swift3D and a 20% discount code for everyone in
> > > attendance. I've also created a demo and carved out some time in the
> > > classroom to go over how to use Swift3D with these new features.
> > >
> > > *Hope that helps ;)  I'm REALLY very hopeful about Swift3D.  IF they
> > > get UVMapping/editing dialed in, this will be THE tool for flashers hands
> > > down.  Not to mention the fact that these guys understand flashers, and
> > > Swift3D has always been about Flash 3D - they're interface and workflow is
> > > very "flash" centric.  I think this will bring in a huge number of flashers
> > > to even TRY 3D for the first time - people who'd been scared off by rumors
> > > of needing applications like 3D Studio Max or maya (Or Heaven forbid -
> > > blender).
> > > *
> > > *
> > > On Nov 29, 2007 1:08 PM, John Lindquist <johnlindquist at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > What's your opinion of using Swfit3D for papervision so far? It
> > > > sounds like it might be a viable option for us freelance types who can't
> > > > afford a legit copy of 3ds Max.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 29, 2007 11:30 AM, John Grden <neoriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > haha! rock on guys!! we can't WAIT!  Andy and I can't wait to get
> > > > > up there with you guys
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah Saturday night, if people wanna hang, we should get a group
> > > > > together and do something!
> > > > >
> > > > > As for other software, just make sure you have Flash CS3 and
> > > > > FlexBuilder installed (both have 30 day evals).  we'll be teaching from
> > > > > those tools.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll also being doing a demo with the new Swift3D verison that
> > > > > supports Papervision and DAE, but I don't think that'll be available for
> > > > > download, and right now, the mac version might not be ready before the
> > > > > class.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 29, 2007 11:02 AM, Francois Balmelle <francois at blobprod.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >  So do I.
> > > > > > F
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/29/07 11:58 AM, "Gregory Sogorka" <
> > > > > > blackberryoctopus at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll be there! w00t!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > G
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 1:44 PM, ilteris kaplan <ilteriskaplan at gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am curious to hear who's coming to the workshop in NYC this
> > > > > > weekend! I
> > > > > > just got my pre-workshop pdf from Kathryn ClodFelter and I am
> > > > > > sooo excited!
> > > > > > Maybe we should organize a pre-workshop bar session on Saturday!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the way I am a mac user and I am wondering if I should
> > > > > > install any other
> > > > > > 3d software other than 3dsmax which I can follow around while
> > > > > > you are
> > > > > > showing us some stuff in 3dsmax, John? Sketchup, Maya?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > best,
> > > > > > ilteris
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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