[Papervision3D] Camera Movement Problems [Encouragement]

[Dwayne Neckles]

Boris, 

As a famed PV3d Beginner : ) and constant poster : )  I have to say I feel your pain.
I have tried nearly everything to get folks to respond to some questions but there is more than meets the eye.
When folks respond I look inward at myself now..

Folks here like the fiesty -but helpful- Makc like to see if you make the effort yourself.
Once I got a response from him and one time was like "Dude why don't you just try doing x to see" I was embarassed but I took that as a lesson and try it code before doing it.

I'm not saying you are me, but some portions of my experience will help you understand how to deal when you don't get a response.

Yes Boris it's true if you search Nabble there are posts that don't get a single answer, I used to get frustrated and leave thinking the group are a bunch of elitists. I'm talking bout flashcoder not papervision by the way. I havent left PV and I rejoined Flashcoders.


I've grown a bit personally.


maybe I can try harder, or show them that I have tried nearly everything.
Also I've learned that when you do find the answer let them know.. not just for others, and it shows that the problem u had was actually a real valid question.

I look inwards and I ask if I am unclear or  I post my question in a different way.
I never dare beg ( manipulative ) or put down and scream to get folks to answer my question its a turn off.

Boris, if possible I've even made the extra work of providing a url of my question with jpg screenshots of the code (instead of copy and paste ) and screenshot of corresponding swf. I put in work.

I'd come up with ways to do anything to make it easier for the PV3d guys to help me. They notice that and they come around. But just dumping loooooooooong code is a not the best.. short snippets are cool but not the entire class or two.
 
These folk are professionals who do some HOT shit and may not have time to read through and debug your code, I wouldn't even attribute it to lazyness. The cold hard truth is that they don't have to , and believe me Boris saying that doesnt help me, but its true..

I don't know how guys like Mr. D00b Seb or even MakC get this far without a forum of help but to me, if they have something in them that can do it, then I'm gonna nurture that talent within myself.

Off my soapbox now Boris, just wanted to share my opinion

hth,
: ) 
> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:02:53 +0300
> From: makc.the.great at gmail.com
> To: papervision3d at osflash.org
> Subject: Re: [Papervision3D] Camera Movement Problems
> 
> people are lazy to debug other people code. when they say you can get
> help here, it means someone is willing to write a few sentences
> pointing in right direction (like I just did :)
> 
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 7:35 PM, sirobbob <degenhardt at visor3000.com> wrote:
> > ps: i thought here i can get help, am i wrong! e.g. someone says something
> > and if it even is: what an idiot question...some reaction pleeease
> 
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