[Papervision3D] The Russians are coming....

Fri Apr 18 08:29:29 PDT 2008

actually, using vague object references is slower, and not advanced and
creates a very vague API that nobody could be sure about what to send other
than knowing it by heart or reading the docs (IE: code hinting in a good
code editor would be lost).  That's very as2 and not strictly typed.

I doubt the away guys are using that technique on much of their stuff.
Carlos  had it in there on the as2 engine, and I've been stripping out old
remains as much as I can when I find them :)

I don't know if Away is doing that on anything, but I kinda doubt it.

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:19 AM, xero <xero.nu at gmail.com> wrote:

> i disagree.
>
> "diffrent strokes, for diffrent folks"
>
> each engine has its own purpose,
> its own nitch. each engines has its
> own strengths and weakenesses.
> each has its own focus...
>
> papervision3D is very focused on
> optimizations. the fastest algo
> possible to get the rendering
> job down. least in = least out.
> also, pv3d has a very open ended
> archetecture, allowing developers
> to easly extend base classes and
> create new owns (ie: the render engines)
>
> i dont know alot about away and sandy, but
> away3D seems all about perfect 3D projection.
> they were the team that developed, percise
> materials (which are a life saver btw!)
>
> another big diffrence is coding style.
> the pv3d team like the standard as3
> style var thing:Type = new Type(stuff, stuff, stuff);
> while away used the more advanced stynax
> var thing:Type = new Type({props...});
> is there a huge diffrence? maybe.... but
> its really about what your trying to achive
> with the engine that drives its development.
> each team/engine has its own agenda, and
> own plan about how the engine will work.
>
> ok im rambeling....
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> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Dwayne Neckles <dwayneneckles at hotmail.com>
> > To: "papervision3d at osflash.org" <papervision3d at osflash.org>
> > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:40:04 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [Papervision3D] The Russians are coming....
> >  Yes, I am just  a n00b on here.. and probably will never be one of
> > those developers that contribute something
> > "There are many developers who have the talent, skillset and expertise
> > to contribute a great deal ; but that there is no structure in place to
> > coordinate those efforts and bring it all together."
> >
> > I have to say that I agree..
> >
> > Flash 3d is possible to be "perfectly implemented" if  the dudes from
> > PV3d away3d sandy and russia compiled their talent, for some one reason
> > folks want to do their own thing..
> >
> > its weird but its like it holds the industry back...
> >
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:36:10 -0400
> > From: b at turbulent.ca
> > To: papervision3d at osflash.org
> > Subject: Re: [Papervision3D] The Russians are coming....
> >
> >
> > Alternativa demos have been pretty impressive since they started their
> > platform blog a little while ago. The bunker demo is technically impressive,
> > artwork is strong and optimization was really took into account. Kudos on
> > the demo.
> >
> > This does make me reflect on the state of open source 3D in flash.
> > Overall I think the scene is doing amazing stuff and that it's come a long
> > way from the first revisions of pv and keeping that in mind I do have some
> > criticism.
> >
> > I feel that overall ; the flash 3D scene is segmented and that talent
> > isn't funnelled properly. There are many developers who have the talent,
> > skillset and expertise to contribute a great deal ; but that there is no
> > structure in place to coordinate those efforts and bring it all together.
> > There is no public overall plan of development for the engine; that makes it
> > difficult for outside developers to come in and volunteer to take a stab at
> > some of the features that either need correction or implementation.
> >
> > This shouldn't be seen as a rant at all ; on the contrary I'm simply
> > questioning whether the current structure and organization of development is
> > optimal.
> >
> >
> > -b
> >
> >
> > Lucas Bul wrote:
> >
> > Anton Volkov who is the father of this 3d engine has been playing with
> > 3d in flash for many, many years and especially after Alternativa's
> > first demo I was pretty sure it's going to be big.
> >
> > Respect and... thanks for motivation.
> >
> > Lucas Bulhttp://www.massivecube.com
> >
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