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Carlos Ulloa carlos at papervision3d.org
Mon Mar 24 03:09:00 PST 2008


Regarding the preloader, I didn't know much AS3 at the time, had no idea 
how to do a preloader and no time to google or ask around. It wasn't 
intentional, just rushed. :) My apologies to those on a slow connection.

But the conceptual approach, with no text or any info, isn't an 
accident. The message I wanted to deliver was better expressed with the 
shark than any "best 3d engine" text. Instead of explaining what PV3D or 
even a 3D engine was, I just wanted to show what it could do.

Before the first private release, I spent a year trying to do 3D 
commercially, but people didn't seem to understand the advantages or 
imagine the results. And a year ago the feeling among many of us here 
was "I want to use PV3D for my work".

Hoping to create demand for our type of work, one of the objectives of 
the PV3D site/blog became to inspire not only developers, but also 
designers, creatives, agencies, clients and everybody that work at 
concept stage of a project. The developer is usually not involved at 
this stage, and going 3D isn't something you decide at the last minute 
(like it was with bravia).

We are slowly getting there, but there's still a lot of work to do,

C4



Zeh Fernando wrote:
> At least it wasn't stated as a fact, as in "fact: the site is a failure". :)
>
> In all seriousness, though, the long wait is indeed long. But visiting 
> the website and having no clue to what's happening is the problem. I 
> remember the first time I visited it and I was like "ok, nice logo". It 
> was only some long time after that that I visited again and noticed 
> something was loading on the background. I had to resort to Firebug to 
> see what's going on. Only then I realized it actually had more than just 
> a black screen -- it was loading a bunch of images.
>
> It reminded me of the experience of visiting Japanese websites: I guess 
> that, in Japan, everything is so fast, people don't even bother having 
> preloaders or loading bars or all those poor man stuff. They'll just 
> leave that kind of crap to third world country developers.
>
> Anyway, I guess only people living in some specific conditions will 
> understand - if you're under some very fast bandwidth you won't even 
> notice - but in case you do, it's pretty bad. Not the WAIT, in itself, 
> but the cluelessness of the whole thing. People are used to waiting, but 
> they someone to tell there will be cake in the end.
>
> Finally, I have a 2mbit adsl. It took me 1m:2s *after* the logo had 
> shown up for the water to show up (after loading 4.58mb).
>
> I hope that sounds like honest, constructive criticism, because that's 
> what it is.
>
>
> Zeh
>
>
> Ralph Hauwert wrote:
>   
>> LOL. That's hilarious man. "Pure and simple the site is a failure.".....
>>
>> You see, the average user has been waiting for it to load. Wether that 
>> is usability or not is another thing...but the Pure and Simple statement 
>> is wayyyy too lolcatz for me.
>>
>>
>> On 23 mrt 2008, at 16:38, Paul Decoursey wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> But if you don't know they are coming then how would someone do that?
>>>
>>> It doesn't really show anything off in my opinion because the average 
>>> user isn't going to wait for it to load if they don't know it's 
>>> loading.  Pure and simple the site is a failure.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Tom Richardson wrote:
>>>       
>>>> I don't think usability was of particular concern on this "look what 
>>>> we can do!" tech demo.
>>>>
>>>> Appreciate the fish for what they really are- freaking cool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tyler E <tyleregeto at hotmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:tyleregeto at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Ha!, what it really needs is a load bar, just let it sit for a while.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Makc The Great wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     > when this URL will show anything else besides logo?
>>>>     >
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