Guys, i can completely understand what you're referring to - i wasn't really aware how things would look on the list at the time, all i wanted to do was help the people asking questions.<br><br>I'm afraid i don't agree with you about this not being the 'place' for discussing different engines. I would argue that a discussion such as the one you are bringing up has no 'place' on the mailing list, but if you are determined to answer to this on-list, i feel compelled to do the same in the confines of the thread.
<br><br>I would bet the vast majority of people on this list are here because they want to do 3d in flash, and Papervision is the only engine they've heard of. This is a situation of circumstance, and really nothing for anyone to get too arrogant about.
<br><br>I often read posts on this list that are asking for specific features that Papervision does not support. As an active member of the community, i fell compelled to help these people by offering a solution that is simple and effective in its execution. If that solution happens to be one found in Away3d, i fail to see why it shouldn't be brought up. If nothing else, it alerts the Papervison dev team that people are asking for these features, and solution could possibly be adapted from the Away3d implementation in order to include in the next revision of Papervision. After all, we are both open source engines and have both taken code from each other in the past. Why should that be seen as a problem on the Papervision mailing list?
<br><br>At the end of the day, i think we need to ask ourselves why we are doing this. Why are Papervision and Away3d open source projects? My reason would be because i want to offer others an entry point into the world of 3d in Flash, so that they can produce the best online 3d experiences. That reason does not include exclusionism, arrogance or nepotism. Those attributes are usually reserved for a commercial enterprise, which Papervision should never be about.
<br><br>If you still disagree with my assessment, then i suggest we take this discussion off list. I fail to see why anyone here wants to witness other people's dirty laundry, and it would be my preferred course of action.
<br><br><br>atb<br><br><br>Rob<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 22, 2007 4:18 PM, Tim Knip <<a href="mailto:tim.knip@gmail.com">tim.knip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">> i hope this clears up my recent posting activity, and we can get back to the far more<br>> important task of helping to create the best 3d content in flash with the minimum of fuss<br><br></div>
Yes, but this is the Papervision3D list, not the Away3D list.<br>Any post pointing to Away3D is by definition off topic.<br><br>I don't want to hear: Away3D can do that!<br>I rather want to hear some outline on how it possibly *could* be done in PV3D.
<br><br>This list is for making PV3D better, not to point to some other engine.<br>Don't get me wrong, I like Away3D, but this is not the place.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Tim<br></font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
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