There is nothing to suggest that Flash 10 will not be able to run the current 3d engines with a bit of tweaking, so i think any concern currently has little basis. There seems to be some confusion over what additions have been announced: Flash 10 is offering 3d plane transformation capabilities in a software renderer, so as far as i can tell this still leaves Papervision and other 3d engines with a role to play - providing a robust framework for designers and developers to produce 3d applications.
<br><br>I wouldn't get too excited about things like native 3d matrix calculations. Currently, we have a native 2d matrix class that is slower than writing your own code. :( <br><br>Rob<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Dec 29, 2007 9:09 AM, Peter Strømberg <<a href="mailto:peter@stromberglarsen.dk">peter@stromberglarsen.dk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I'm sure when flash player 10 arrives the PV3D team will take<br>full advantage of the new features to make PV even better and faster.<br>Ralph is no doubt dying to get his hands on that filter API (hydra<br>as it's currently known) and the more native matrix calculations and
<br>GPU integration the faster *everything* will run, allowing for more<br>vertices,<br>more intricate objects and eventually something to rival OpenGL/DirectX<br>which is surely what we all dream of, not in "a good few years" but now damn
<br>it!<br><br>Make your content worth the upgrade JC and the masses will come.<br>Firewalls can be an obsticle, yes, but if they made the switch to fp9 and<br>updated when there were security fixes (they would do that wouldn't they?)
<br>then why not fp10, so they can spend less time studying and more time<br>playing doom online :O) Can't wait for 2008!<br><br>Cheers<br><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
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<br>To: <a href="mailto:papervision3D@osflash.org">papervision3D@osflash.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Papervision3D] flash 10 vs papervision<br><br><br>Just had a little read through the messages here,<br><br>I myself would not bother using flash player10 for a good few years yet, the
<br>reason is simple. Why ask everyone to upgrade their flash player when they<br>all ready have one that supports 3D, not to mention business / university<br>firewalls and proxy's which would most likely block a new player from being
<br>downloaded. Don't get me wrong mind I believe the 3D capabilities provided<br>by the F10 player will be more powerful than PV3D, however PV3D has the<br>potential to build 3D game like applications where what I have seen from the
<br>F10 player, adobes approach seems to be purely Interface and application 3D<br>rather than Game 3D.<br><br>JC<br><br><br>James Marsden-2 wrote:<br>><br>><br>> Does the core team not have this experience? I thought Carlos' history
<br>> was with SCEE in game development.<br>><br>>><br>>>> Flash 10 vs. Papervision?<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> If Adobe were to take 3D seriously in any future version, aren't
<br>>>> they<br>>>><br>>>> likely to just hire the PV3D team? That's what I'd do...<br>>>><br>>><br>>> PV3D is an API on top of the native graphics capabilities available
<br>>> in the Player today. Aside from the Actionscript API, no one here is<br>>> of any use to Adobe unless they have C/C++ development experience<br>>> (and a significant amount of it at that).<br>>>
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