<div dir="ltr">well, what's in the IDE is purely 2D - in the demos i've seen delivered by Adobe over the last few months - being able to join movieclips together with a joint etc. etc. perhaps you could extend it to make a 3D joint (which is something i'm guessing sounds a lot easier than it actually is) but that's not how it's going to get used by the majority of people who buy a copy of CS4. <div>
<br></div><div>Because it's so easy to make jointed 2D puppets they'll be everywhere.</div><div><br></div><div>If they release it with 3D joints i'm giving up flash and becoming a tree surgeon, cause the web will be a mass of ragdolls. :)</div>
<div><br></div><div>T<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Peter Strømberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter@stromberglarsen.dk">peter@stromberglarsen.dk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Are you sure about that Trevor?</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Seems strange to add a zRotation and bones and not have the
bones work in 3 angles.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Even if they only work on a single angle, you could
still extend the class using multiple</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">2D abstractions to represent a single 3D joint. Probably
just as hard as writing your own</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">from scratch, but then again you wouldn't need to know *as
much* IK logic.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Peter S.</font></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:papervision3d-bounces@osflash.org" target="_blank">papervision3d-bounces@osflash.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:papervision3d-bounces@osflash.org" target="_blank">papervision3d-bounces@osflash.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Trevor
Burton<br><b>Sent:</b> 26 September 2008 08:50<br><b>To:</b>
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Wow!<br></font><br></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
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<div dir="ltr">nah, it's all 2D - they call it 'bones' and it's going to be the
new preloader, ie. you're going to see it overused everywhere for a long time
before people calm down and get over it.
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<div>your stuff is safe, nate!</div>
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<div>T<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Nathaniel Warner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:warner.nathaniel@gmail.com" target="_blank">warner.nathaniel@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>I haven't seen the CS4 IK stuff. Would it be possible to use it
with a 3d model in PV3D? I have been working on a numeric IK solver
for PV3D as a pet project and have it working for the most part. I guess
what I want to know is, have I been working on my IK classes for nothing since
CS4 is going to have that out of the box?</div>
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<div>-Nate<br><br></div>
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<div>On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:21 PM, slopester <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:slope@slopester.com" target="_blank">slope@slopester.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">Looks like some nice stuff tbh -
spray brush a la illustrator is real nice, IK/bones pretty nice too...
Seems to be geared to the banner monkeys really as much of this stuff is
already in the bag for actionscripters. And I feel your pain on the
'wrong side of the atlantic' - I'm sadly familiar with Adobe's idea of
equality: 2.5K USD for them is equal to 2.5K GBP. It's
a scandal.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">slopes</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">Did anybody hear!?</font><br><br><font color="#000000">Adobe CS4 is OUT!!!</font><br><br><font color="#000000">No it
isn't!</font><br><br><font color="#000000">Yes it is....</font><br><br><font color="#000000">Sorry its off topic but am I the only one who is bored of all
the blog</font><br><font color="#000000">posts?</font><br><br><font color="#000000">Its not out yet, and when it is I can't afford it, mostly
because I live the</font><br><font color="#000000">wrong side of the Atlantic
:o)</font></div></div></div><br></div></div>
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