[Red5] Flumotion, Red5 and Firewire [splitcam, vhscrcap

[Alexander Bethke]

Nice collection of resources on the topic, thanks.

Alex



Walter Tak wrote:
> fyi you can do a bit more with Flash Player and USB-webcams :
>
> (1) It seems that the Mac Flash player recognizes a Sony Mini DV camera 
> (firewire) as a USB device.
>
> http://incident.net/users/gregory/wordpress/04-streaming-xbox-to-the-flash-player-via-flash-communication-server/
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>> Some time ago I had done a simple experiment with the Flash Communication 
>> Server and my Xbox. I broadcast myself playing SSX >Tricky, and Halo to 
>> about 50 people via the Flash Communication Server and Flash player. I have 
>> had a couple of requests to explain >my hardware setup, so here it is.
>> It is actually pretty simple, and consisted of:
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>> XBox -> (RCA Cable) -> Sony Mini DV -> (firewire) -> Mac iMac - > Flash 
>> Player
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>> The Flash Player recognizes the Mini DV as a camera and uses it like a 
>> webcam.
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>> I set the Mini DV to VCR and then just started playing the XBox. The Mini 
>> DV basically acts as a bridge between the XBox and Flash >player.
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> (2) Besides the above 'native' solution you can use a 
> usb-webcam-emulator/driver like Split Cam ;
> http://www.splitcamera.com/ ; it acts as a software-bridge or converter 
> between your hi-def-input like a firewire camera and Flash.
>
> (3) I've experimented a lot with this USB-driver "VH Screen Capture Driver" 
> http://www.hmelyoff.com/index.php?section=8 which transmits the screen (!) 
> of the publisher to the server. It's decent for Live MS Powerpoint 
> broadcasting (use quality > 95% and enough bandwidth and you have a decent 
> live-stream-of-still-powerpoint-slides)
>
> (4) 'Willing Webcam' http://www.willingsoftware.com/
>
> I've used the last one (Willing Webcam) for a few minutes and it works. If 
> you have a videocard with video-in (Nvidia's VIVO) or a Firewire/DV cam then 
> you can select that input and let it pretend to be a webcam. In Flash you 
> can select the 'willing webcam driver' and et voila ; your videocard is 
> promoted to a 'webcam'. It does eat a lot of CPU-power this conversion.
>
> Regards,
> Walter Tak
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alexander Bethke" <abethke at oamk.fi>
> To: <red5 at osflash.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Red5] Flumotion, Red5 and Firewire
>
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>> Heippa,
>>
>> Flash Player (that is used in the publisher) is in general only designed
>> to capture USB-Cams.
>>
>> So what would work for a camcorder?
>> Adobe would want you to use Flash Media Encoder for live video encoding
>> (which requires a Flash Media Server license ;) ). On2 would like to
>> sell you one of their Flix Encoders.
>>
>> So Encoding in Flash Player would be the only free and available
>> possibility at the moment. Am I right on this, people, or did I miss
>> something??? Is there any alternative FME out there, like was Rob
>> working on some tool like that for the C# version of Red5?
>> Note that the quality of audio and video is by far worse when using
>> Flash Player, because it uses Sorenson Spark (H.263) / Nellymoser ASAO
>> codecs, rather CPU-economic stuff. It is meant for video
>> call/conferencing purposes.
>>
>> In Windows it works in Flash Player when you have a Camcoder with
>> USB-Streaming (like some Sony models), but I think there are no drivers
>> for that in Linux.
>>
>> In Linux however you have the advantage that Flash Player supports
>> Video4Linux, so you can use every device with a Video4Linux driver. But
>> camcoders seem not to be blessed with such.
>>
>> There are people working on DV->V4L solutions, but nothing ready yet it
>> seams:
>> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/dv4l/
>>
>> Otherwise there would be coriander supporting  firewire->V4L for
>> uncompressed camera streams only (so no DV-Cams):
>> http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/index.php
>>
>> On the other hand I have no idea about Flumotion's Open Source versions
>> Flash output-features. What are your research results on that? But if
>> you don't want/need real RTMP streaming to your clients but only HTTP
>> progressive downloading you could put the Flumotion output to ffmpeg and
>> encode it to an flv file (FIFO?).
>>
>>
>> Terveisin, Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> Asmo Koskinen wrote:
>>     
>>> Dear list,
>>>
>>> I have tried both Flumotion and Red5.
>>>
>>> Flumtotion can use firewire video camera, but Red5 only usb webcam. Is
>>> that really so?
>>>
>>> Flumotion:
>>>
>>> http://www.arkki.info/howto/Flumotion/Flumotion_05.png
>>> http://www.arkki.info/howto/Flumotion/Flumotion_06.png
>>>
>>> Red5:
>>>
>>> http://www.arkki.info/howto/Flumotion/Flumotion_07.png
>>>
>>>
>>> I use Ubuntu Linux 7.04.
>>>
>>> Best regards Asmo Kosknen.
>>>
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