[Red5] VP6 implementation

SeTyR setyr at free.fr
Wed Mar 5 10:23:58 PST 2008


Thanks Andy and Naicu
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy 
  To: red5 at osflash.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Red5] VP6 implementation


              "...but it is still reencoded with sorenson in the flash app catching the live isn't it ?"

   

              No evidence that this happens.

   

              Vp6->decompress to sorenson->compress to sorenson->decompress

   

              No I don't believe that

   

   

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: red5-bounces at osflash.org [mailto:red5-bounces at osflash.org] On Behalf Of SeTyR
  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:41 AM
  To: red5 at osflash.org
  Subject: Re: [Red5] VP6 implementation

   

  Hi Lenny ,

   

  I so far used v2008.build.24 (jan 18, 2008)

   

  I just opened it and there is now a  v2008.build.25 (Feb 5, 2008)

  available for download 

   

  Read ya later ! 

  SeTyR

   

  (fine interview inbetween ^^)

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Lenny Sorey 

    To: red5 at osflash.org 

    Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:31 PM

    Subject: Re: [Red5] VP6 implementation

     

    SeTyR,

     

    Super now contains VP6 encoding?

     

    What version is this in?

     

    This is what I use to do encoding.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Lenny

     

    On 3/5/08, SeTyR <setyr at free.fr> wrote: 

    Hi Everyone & Lenny ;

     

    For VP6 encoding for VOD files, plain flash 8, onFlix , Sorenson Squeeze or super will do the job perfectly ;

    For live published and recorded streams, i've now been looking for a solution for months now .. 

     

    If someone can provide a hint, that would be great (thanks already Andy for the On2 flix live idea but it is still reencoded with sorenson in the flash app catching the live isn't it ?) 

     

    And i'm also interrested in you cheap authentification method =)

     

    Cheers everyone !

    SeTyR

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Lenny Sorey 

      To: red5 at osflash.org 

      Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:41 PM

      Subject: Re: [Red5] VP6 implementation


       

      Hi Andy,

       

      Thanks for weighing in on this subject.

       

      Can you tell me more about your cheep : ) authentication method?

       

      Now that VP6 has gained my attention, I would like to find a way to use

      it in in VOD and Live broadcast.

       

      And I realize that VOD would have to be encoded before viewing.

       

      But the thing that stumps me the most is the live encoding 

      with VP6.

       

      You can email me off list if you want to about your method.

       

      Thanks,

       

      Lenny

       

      On 3/5/08, Andy <bowljoman at hotmail.com> wrote: 

      I have used FME2 and red5 for vp6 in extended broadcasts.

      @lenny I also have a cheep authentication method as well, slightly
      different than the 'live' application's method.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: red5-bounces at osflash.org [mailto:red5-bounces at osflash.org] On
      Behalf Of Yaroslav
      Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:28 AM
      To: red5 at osflash.org
      Subject: Re: [Red5] VP6 implementation

      Red5 does not do transcoding. It serves what it has been fed with.

      There are at least three possibilities to feed live VP6 into Red5:

      - using Adobe Flash Media Encoder (the license of it prohibits doing
      so but technically this could be tested)
      - using On2 Flix Live (commercial; trial available)
      - using On2 Flix SDK

      My tests show there are problems with live VP6 in Red5. Although I
      could not find evidence of somebody experiencing the same sort of
      trouble. Neither I heard of any successful use of live VP6 with Red5.

      Yaroslav

      On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Lenny Sorey <lrsorey at gmail.com> wrote:
      > Naicu,
      >
      > Thanks again for your response.
      >
      > I think I found what I was looking for.
      >
      > Sorry that I am being a bit thick headed.
      >
      > Just have never ventured beyond what are the defaults
      > of Flash and Flex.
      >
      > I really do appreciate your responds.
      >
      > They are very helpful. : )
      >
      >
      >
      > Regards,
      >
      > Lenny
      >
      >
      > On 3/5/08, Naicu Octavian <naicuoctavian at gmail.com> wrote:
      > > With Red5 you can stream .flv files with the video data encoded with
      > either vp6 or sorenson.
      > >
      > > If you want to record webcams using red5+flash player or send live
      video
      > using red5+flash player you are sutck with soreonson because the
      encoding is
      > done in the flash player not in red5.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > On 05/03/2008, Lenny Sorey <lrsorey at gmail.com> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Naicu,
      > > >
      > > > Thanks for your response.
      > > >
      > > > I know that ffmeg is not Red5.
      > > >
      > > > I am just looking for some instructions
      > > > on how to use VP6 with REd5 if I am asking the
      > > > correct question.
      > > >
      > > > I do realize that the Sorenson Codec is the default in RED5.
      > > >
      > > > I imagine I am not the only one in this group who would like to
      know
      > > > but am at least not not to show my ignorance to this subject. : )
      > > >
      > > > Just looking where to begin.
      > > >
      > > > Regards,
      > > >
      > > > Lenny
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > On 3/5/08, Naicu Octavian <naicuoctavian at gmail.com> wrote:
      > > > > Red5 is not ffmpeg
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > On 05/03/2008, Lenny Sorey <lrsorey at gmail.com> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Yep,
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Lenny
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > On 3/5/08, Steven Gong <steven.gong at gmail.com> wrote:
      > > > > > > Do you mean transcoding from/to VP6?
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Lenny Sorey
      <lrsorey at gmail.com>
      > wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Is there a how to somewhere on how to implement VP6 into
      Red5?
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Until now I have never considered trying VP6 in RED5.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Thanks,
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Lenny
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      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --
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      > > > > > > Steven Gong
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > InfraRed5 Red5 Consultant: http://www.infrared5.com,
      > steven at infrared5.com
      > > > > > >
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