[Red5] 64bit red5
dominick at red5.org
Wed Jul 1 13:22:15 PDT 2009
Lol, I love how you worded that Larry!
I don't really know anyone who's running it on the second fastest mac server
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Larry Sanderson
<larry.sanderson at gmail.com>wrote:
> Wow, you're going a little out of my areas of expertise there, though I
> your frustration with too-quickly-outdated tech purchases.
> Regarding the whole: how well will Red5 run on a bagillion-core box with
> RAM than sand grains in the Sahara?
> I'm guessing it will run pretty damn well :-)
> I am not a Red5 developer, but from poking through their code, they are
> all the right things: Using Java's nio package (via the mina libraries) to
> reduce the connection-thread ratio, using the java.util.concurrent packages
> for unsynchronized concurrency, etc...
> Still, on reasonable hardware, I would expect a standard Red5 system to be
> limited long before it becomes CPU limited. If you are doing other fancy
> to the streams, though (like transcoding via xuggler or something similar),
> then the CPU will become the bottleneck much more quickly.
> By the way, none of this has anything to do with 64-bit vs. 32-bit, so
> we're in need of a subject rewrite?
> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 03:06:11 pm Bobby wrote:
> > Larry,
> > This is a very interesting question as I'd like to test Red5 on my
> > MacPro.
> > What, if any, are the advantages/disadvantages of a Xeon 8-Core
> > running at 3.2 Ghz, with 32GB of Memory (which I have), and the new
> > NEHALEM MacPro that Apple released after the release of "The fastest
> > Mac in the Planet" they sold me just a few months earlier. I've never
> > had an issue with Apple until this. It appears they are Tied to the
> > Hip now with INTEL's constant plans for all these new processors, and
> > like the iPhone that got charged $499 and sold later for $299 then
> > Apple provided rebates, they won't budget a bit for someone spending
> > $26,000 on a MacPro Server, and then a few months later releasing what
> > they again titled "The fastest Mac on the Planet".
> > Seems in t he Consumers interest that, if I buy, for the Purpose of a
> > Java Server and other Mac OS X capabilities that I may use for RED5 as
> > a Dedicated Server, that If I purchase "The fastest Mac on the Planet
> > on the day it's released, and 8 months later they announced "The
> > fastest Mac on the Planet" that it's unreasonable for them not to have
> > a Customer Policy of those spending over $25k (or some standard) and
> > tell them, look wait a few MONTHS.
> > This is a hot debate because it's one thing to buy a computer late it
> > it's season and have it outdated, and it's also true that every 2-3
> > years once can expect their investment to depreciate.
> > But to depreciate by a factor of no less than 2.7x Speed, what's that
> > all about?
> > Are there any Advantages to running RED5 on a 8-Core Xeon versus a
> > NEHALEM ???
> > And does anybody know how to get a Highspeed Connection from out of a
> > Studio Apartement (that would really save some costs, I hope; at least
> > for experimental reasons; HUGHS.NET is that real or Overhyped).
> > -r
> > On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Larry Sanderson wrote:
> > > 64-bits on its surface doesn't add much - just more available memory
> > > space,
> > > and native 64-bit arithmetic (so, if you use lots of longs and
> > > doubles, things
> > > will be a bit faster).
> > >
> > > However, the x86-64 architecture also adds a bunch of registers to the
> > > platform compared to the previous x86 chips, as well as a few new
> > > instructions
> > > (SSE2/3). These all make for a modest speed boost even at the same
> > > clock
> > > speed.
> > >
> > > My experience is that if you upgrade the OS from 32-bit to 64-bit,
> > > you will
> > > see a small performance improvement, but not huge.
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 01 July 2009 01:14:02 am Rafael Carabano wrote:
> > >>> From your experience what benefits (if any) are there in running
> > >>> red5 on a
> > >>
> > >> 64 bit machine vs a 32 bit? I have always worked in 32 bit
> > >> architectures
> > >> and I'm curious as to the experience of those running it on 64 bit
> > >> machines? Thanks.
> > >
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