[Red5] red5 vs other servers.

Art Clarke aclarke at xuggle.com
Tue Sep 8 07:56:57 PDT 2009


Hi folks,

For what it's worth, I agree with Mauro -- for his needs and skillset
Wowza is a better choice.  Red5 as it currently stands works well if
you're an advanced Java-developer who enjoys digging in, but is very
hard for new users to pick up and use.

I think of Red5 like a F1 race car; it can go faster, corner better,
and do more spectacular things than any of the competition.  But you
need to have an expert driver, and a hell of a support crew to get it
to start on the track, and even then you'll occasionally get
spectacular crashes and explosions.

If you're just looking for a Media Server for "commuting", and aren't
an expert (which clearly Mauro isn't), then the support and safety
systems in Wowza are much much better.

IMO Red5 right now isn't trying to be easy for "commuters" to use.
New features that get added in general (there are a few exceptions)
are targeted at race-car drivers -- not commuters.  It is possible to
target commuters, but the leadership and contributors of the project
would have to explicitly target those users, and I don't think that's
likely soon.

Red5's leadership, main contributors, and most vocal users all want to
push the boundaries of what's possible with media servers, and it's
hard to do that while simultaneously having all the safety systems
that commuters expect in their cars.

And to put all my cards on the table, I'd be very supportive of
STOPPING adding new features to Red5 and instead concentrate pushing
out a "1.0 release" focused on bugfixes, stability and usability.
I've expressed this view multiple times to the people I consider to be
the leaders of this project.

But as with all open-source projects, there are many voices and in my
opinion the driving forces behind the project have chosen, for their
own good reasons, to instead concentrate on pushing the envelope for
now.

That direction can be changed, but will only be changed by volunteer
contributions (not just opinions) that push Red5 towards a "commuter"
direction (by the way, while I'm supportive of making Red5 easier to
use, I'd like to see Red5 end up like a Lexus sports coupe, not a
Honda Accord (Wowza) and certainly not a Ford Pinto (FMS)).

So in short, I don't think anyone should be frustrated by Mauro -- he
made an extremely rational and pragmatic decision.  Instead, let's use
his decisions to guide CONTRIBUTIONS to Red5 if you think you want
people like Mauro as users, or accept that they will reject Red5 as it
currently stands.

- Art

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Mauro<mrsanna1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/9/8 Denis Zgonjanin <me.snap at gmail.com>:
>> I am not a fan of the Flash Media Server, but a 32 bit application won't
>> work any worse just because it's installed on a 64 bit system. That's not a
>> very good reason at all
>
> It's my fixed, sorry for my bad english, I don't want to install 32
> bit libraries on a 64 bit system, I like to have a clean system
> without promiscuity.
> I know that wooza is also for 64 bit systems.
>
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