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Mon Mar 28 08:41:41 EDT 2011
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:29 PM, mike at grounded.net <mike at grounded.net>wrote:
> > Dominick (one of the core team members) set up a forum a while ago i seem
> > make a move to a forum. Mailing lists are just too simple, i think, so
> > momentum needed to move to a forum just doesn't seem to gather.
> I would say it's because old devs don't like change because the world has
> definitely moved on to forums. I'm from the mailing list days also but it's
> simply too difficult to keep track of lists these days. To each his own it
> what it boils down to but I also see why red5 is in such disarray.
personally i think it's a UX problem - forums may 'seem' like a better
option but the simple fact is that mailing lists never seem to succeed in
moving over to them, people get embedded - it's just too easy to have things
drop into your inbox - just create filters or something if you can't keep
track, gmail is great for tracking mailing list stuff i find, but anyway,
that argument runs and runs so probably best to let it lie
> > red5.org is the central place for Red5 information but there are many,
> > others. Usually scattered around in individual blogs - there are no other
> > central repositories of information that i'm aware of - other than
> > Dominick's youtube channel, which has some screencast tutorials that are
> > worth checking out if you're just getting set up for developing with
> It's too bad, it's a mess, hard to find information, scattered all over.
> Sad to see such a good project go to waste because of that. When researching
> this, what I came away with was pay for support, buy wowza because red5 is
> too much for the average user.
Yes, Red5 is definately not for the casual user who just wants to put
something relatively simple together - you CAN do simple streaming very
easily, but Red5 is able to do so much more... but it does require an
investment in time to get your hands dirty.
> > Can't help you on the last thing as i've never used Wowza - there are
> > results for comparisons of red5, wowza and FMS so if you do a bit of
> > reading you should be able to nail down the best one for your use case,
> > i think that's what it comes down to.
> I've done that. The comparisons always lead to the same thing. Unless
> you're a heavy into programming dev, don't bother using red5 or you'll be
> left hanging. It's frustrating to see this happening, it ends up looking
> like a project for certain people, not for the faint of heart which is why
> people are putting their money into wowza.
> I would have been happy to put some of that money into a red5 devs pocket
> but there's barely any activity here so far which makes me nervous. Of
> course, I'm sure all of the defenders of the list will come out of the
> woodwork now telling me how wrong I am.
> > anyway, good luck with Red5 and keep posting questions when you hit those
> The walls have been hit already. I built the server and there is little
> information that makes sense to a casual user. Yet I can go build a wowza
> server and get help right away in the forums. That really sucks but don't
> see what choice I've got.
> I would prefer to use red5 but guess like many I've come across might end
> up putting my bucks into something else.
RED5 is to Wowza what Jazz is to Rock - you have to come to it, it doesn't
come to you!!!
Red5 doesn't offer paid support because of the nature of the project. There
is no central company behind the project with people who can provide that
support, hence the mailing list.
missing documentation has always been a problem for Red5 going right back to
the early days, the problem is that the people who do know what they're
doing simply don't have time to write it. Attempts have been made (by me
included) to put this right, but we all just seem to get caught up with
other work or often with life stuff and it just never gets finished.
don't suppose there's anything stopping someone creating a company, writing
the documentation and creating a Red5 version of the Wowza model, i don't
htink there's anything in the licence to prevent that.
i feel your pain, but it's not THAT difficult to get things up and running
like i say, it's just whether you have the time to invest.
Right now that's the best i can offer you i'm afraid.
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