[Red5devs] Red5 0.7 Sprint

Chris Allen mrchrisallen at gmail.com
Sun Feb 3 08:46:53 PST 2008 

Hey Guys,

Thanks for getting all of this moving along!

I would also like to start offering Eclipse projects that have a  
sample application ready to go. This will also get people started with  
a project that they can use to test their Red5 applications directly  
in Eclipse. I have an example built off of 0.6.1 here on my blog: http://blog.ff9900.org/?p=38 
. I will be glad to put it together an updated version once I have the  
latest tagged JARs. It might make sense for us to create Java 5 and 6  
versions of this, not just one.

Moving forward though, I think it would be even better for us to build  
a proper Eclipse plugin for Red5 development. Buttons that start and  
restart the server, deployment stuff, start in debug mode, a wizard  
for creating a new Red5 project, etc...

What are your thoughts on all of this? I want to get this nailed down  
soon, as John and I are writing some chapters on Red5 for a book, and  
I would like us to be talking about the most accurate and up to date  
info possible.

-Chris

P.S. I will also try to contact Joachim off this list to see how he's  
doing. Hopefully we can get him back and helping soon. I will be sure  
to keep you posted on that.

On Feb 3, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Dominick Accattato wrote:

> Great job Thijs!
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
>
>> Hi Dominick,
>>
>> I added the 'dist-archive' target in r2554 [1]. This creates  
>> Red5.tar.gz in the trunk. I'm now going to try to extend it with  
>> 'dist-macosx' and 'dist-win' targets, that point to the external os- 
>> specific build files, maybe we can also add debian etc..
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Thijs
>>
>> [1] http://mirror1.cvsdude.com/trac/osflash/red5/changeset/2554
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, please do create the ant task for tarball creation
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joachim did the WAR/Debian/Ubuntu builds. There's someone else  
>>>> doing the gentoo build (hosted on an external site/mirror),   
>>>> forgot his name atm but i bet he's reading this list and i can  
>>>> dig up his email if you want. The tarball was also created by  
>>>> Joachim but that one's trivial. I can add a build target to the  
>>>> main build.xml that creates a tarball so that will be automated  
>>>> as well?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Thijs
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Mondain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah the 0.7.1 would be a better target for MP4 since I need at  
>>>>> least another week. I can take care of the WAR builds, but I  
>>>>> dont have access to a Gentoo or Debian box.. I do have Ubuntu  
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008 6:48 AM, Dominick Accattato  
>>>>> <daccattato at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Cool Thijs.  I feel confident that I can do a windows installer,  
>>>>> but I defer to Joachim if he's available.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the following.  Who will do these?  Who has done them  
>>>>> in the past?  I don't think we should hold up the release just  
>>>>> for these, so we can add them at a later time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debian/Ubuntu
>>>>> WAR
>>>>> Gentoo
>>>>> tarball for all other systems.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dominick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm ready to build a 0.7 for mac osx any time. Let me know when  
>>>>>> and I'll take care of it. I saw there was a failing java unit  
>>>>>> test assigned to me but I'll reassign this to Joachim or Paul,  
>>>>>> no idea how to fix that.
>>>>>> I'll also take another look at the Echotest demo, the source  
>>>>>> needs some updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought Joachim was back for development but haven't seen any  
>>>>>> messages lately?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to finally get Red5 0.7 out the door!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thijs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree that any existing issues will be rolled into 0.7.1.   
>>>>>>> As soon as we hear from Thijs and Joachim, we will know better  
>>>>>>> how much time we have left to get the tests working.  Anyone  
>>>>>>> know of any other devs who understand how to build mac OSX  
>>>>>>> installers and other OS distributions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:30 AM, Steven Gong wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008 1:20 PM, Mondain <mondain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The majority of the tests pass, I assigned a couple others  
>>>>>>>> out to the team but I'm not sure of the status. In addition  
>>>>>>>> if we want to release 0.7 in the next few days, I wont have  
>>>>>>>> time to finish the MP4 / H.264 support.
>>>>>>>> I own a bandwidth controller test failure issue and I will  
>>>>>>>> take a look tonight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>>>> Maybe we can put MP4 new feature support to 0.7.1 maybe  
>>>>>>>> together with the VOD performance issue. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2008 9:08 PM, Dominick Accattato <daccattato at gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Team:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just spoke to Steven.  We are going to list the cpu spike  
>>>>>>>> issue in the release notes.  Lets run those tests and see  
>>>>>>>> what is needed to get them all passing.  Last, can Thijs and  
>>>>>>>> Joachim please stand up! ;)  We need to set some dates for  
>>>>>>>> releasing this baby!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Team:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's recap what's left.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CPU spike issue
>>>>>>>>> passing unit tests
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anything else needed for the release?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The load tester (src) is checked into the trunk btw..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2008 10:34 PM, Luke Hubbard <luke at codegent.net>  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Steven
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes please do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Luke
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/08, Steven Gong < steven.gong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Luke,
>>>>>>>>>> If you need Paul's load tester for the test, I can send a  
>>>>>>>>>> copy to you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2008 7:34 AM, Dan Rossi <spam at electroteque.org>  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Paul's load tester flex app is a good one to use but i dont  
>>>>>>>>>> think its accurate enough. I have tested the same app  
>>>>>>>>>> against FMS and Wowza and there was only 5% cpu used maximum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/01/2008, at 7:43 PM, Steven Gong wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2008 4:27 PM, Luke Hubbard < luke at codegent.net>  
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I will try to test with a profiler see what is eating all  
>>>>>>>>>>> that CPU.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is for VOD right, not live? Or both?
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the VOD streaming and can be reproduced by a  
>>>>>>>>>>> simple load test VOD playback.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Luke
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/21/08, Dan Rossi < spam at electroteque.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Less than that before its reaching 100% cpu. aparantly i  
>>>>>>>>>>> go away on a break and everything goes down. It might be  
>>>>>>>>>>> looking like we might have to jump onto the wowza  
>>>>>>>>>>> bandwagon :\
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/01/2008, at 9:55 AM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> are you saying that the core can only handle 50-80  
>>>>>>>>>>>> concurrent connections?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great, i added the preliminary task in there but didnt  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get much responses about it at first :D Should we add  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back in the option to either compile javadoc in a full  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution task or not, that was added in as a  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestion from steve but was removed. It does reduce  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the recompile time alot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the major one that i know of is the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance problems somewhere in the core, its maxing  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out at 50-80 concurrents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/01/2008, at 3:15 AM, Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we plan to inform users of the edge/origin features,  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we will also need to get those parts of the build  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script ironed-out before the release as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2008 4:52 AM, Lenny Sorey <  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lrsorey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Joachim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome back!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to see your return.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope things are well with these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lenny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/17/08, Dominick Accattato < daccattato at gmail.com>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Team:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to give Joachim a warm welcome back.  We missed  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ya!  Everyone has done a great job pushing Red5 forward  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the 0.6 release.  In preparation of the release of  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.7, I'd like to get a few more fixes in.  If we can,  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets try to get this stuff done asap so that we can get  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.7 out the door.  Here is what I find to be of  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> importance for this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.red5.org/browse/APPSERVER-184
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amf3 synchronization issue with SharedObjects (I will  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide Joachim with a test app)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix our tests since Paul noticed many of them are failing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone can think of any other important fixes, list  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them so that we can look into their priority.  Thanks  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> team!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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