[Red5devs] Red5 0.7 Sprint

Thijs Triemstra | Collab lists at collab.nl
Mon Feb 4 05:35:41 PST 2008 

Hi Chris,

that sounds great! I'm going through the jira tickets and found the  
one for the eclipse project generation wizards: http://jira.red5.org/ 
browse/DT-1
assigning it to you.. I think it should be a project on it's own  
though, Red5 is big enough already..

Cheers,

Thijs

On Feb 3, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Chris Allen wrote:

> Hey Guys,
>
> Thanks for getting all of this moving along!
>
> I would also like to start offering Eclipse projects that have a  
> sample application ready to go. This will also get people started  
> with a project that they can use to test their Red5 applications  
> directly in Eclipse. I have an example built off of 0.6.1 here on  
> my blog: http://blog.ff9900.org/?p=38. I will be glad to put it  
> together an updated version once I have the latest tagged JARs. It  
> might make sense for us to create Java 5 and 6 versions of this,  
> not just one.
>
> Moving forward though, I think it would be even better for us to  
> build a proper Eclipse plugin for Red5 development. Buttons that  
> start and restart the server, deployment stuff, start in debug  
> mode, a wizard for creating a new Red5 project, etc...
>
> What are your thoughts on all of this? I want to get this nailed  
> down soon, as John and I are writing some chapters on Red5 for a  
> book, and I would like us to be talking about the most accurate and  
> up to date info possible.
>
> -Chris
>
> P.S. I will also try to contact Joachim off this list to see how  
> he's doing. Hopefully we can get him back and helping soon. I will  
> be sure to keep you posted on that.
>
> On Feb 3, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>
>> Great job Thijs!
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dominick,
>>>
>>> I added the 'dist-archive' target in r2554 [1]. This creates  
>>> Red5.tar.gz in the trunk. I'm now going to try to extend it with  
>>> 'dist-macosx' and 'dist-win' targets, that point to the external  
>>> os-specific build files, maybe we can also add debian etc..
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Thijs
>>>
>>> [1] http://mirror1.cvsdude.com/trac/osflash/red5/changeset/2554
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>>>
>>>> yeah, please do create the ant task for tarball creation
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Joachim did the WAR/Debian/Ubuntu builds. There's someone else  
>>>>> doing the gentoo build (hosted on an external site/mirror),   
>>>>> forgot his name atm but i bet he's reading this list and i can  
>>>>> dig up his email if you want. The tarball was also created by  
>>>>> Joachim but that one's trivial. I can add a build target to the  
>>>>> main build.xml that creates a tarball so that will be automated  
>>>>> as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thijs
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Mondain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah the 0.7.1 would be a better target for MP4 since I need  
>>>>>> at least another week. I can take care of the WAR builds, but  
>>>>>> I dont have access to a Gentoo or Debian box.. I do have  
>>>>>> Ubuntu though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008 6:48 AM, Dominick Accattato  
>>>>>> <daccattato at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Cool Thijs.  I feel confident that I can do a windows  
>>>>>> installer, but I defer to Joachim if he's available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the following.  Who will do these?  Who has done  
>>>>>> them in the past?  I don't think we should hold up the release  
>>>>>> just for these, so we can add them at a later time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debian/Ubuntu
>>>>>> WAR
>>>>>> Gentoo
>>>>>> tarball for all other systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dominick,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm ready to build a 0.7 for mac osx any time. Let me know  
>>>>>>> when and I'll take care of it. I saw there was a failing java  
>>>>>>> unit test assigned to me but I'll reassign this to Joachim or  
>>>>>>> Paul, no idea how to fix that.
>>>>>>> I'll also take another look at the Echotest demo, the source  
>>>>>>> needs some updates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought Joachim was back for development but haven't seen  
>>>>>>> any messages lately?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to finally get Red5 0.7 out the door!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thijs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that any existing issues will be rolled into 0.7.1.   
>>>>>>>> As soon as we hear from Thijs and Joachim, we will know  
>>>>>>>> better how much time we have left to get the tests working.   
>>>>>>>> Anyone know of any other devs who understand how to build  
>>>>>>>> mac OSX installers and other OS distributions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:30 AM, Steven Gong wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2008 1:20 PM, Mondain <mondain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The majority of the tests pass, I assigned a couple others  
>>>>>>>>> out to the team but I'm not sure of the status. In addition  
>>>>>>>>> if we want to release 0.7 in the next few days, I wont have  
>>>>>>>>> time to finish the MP4 / H.264 support.
>>>>>>>>> I own a bandwidth controller test failure issue and I will  
>>>>>>>>> take a look tonight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>>>>> Maybe we can put MP4 new feature support to 0.7.1 maybe  
>>>>>>>>> together with the VOD performance issue. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2008 9:08 PM, Dominick Accattato  
>>>>>>>>> <daccattato at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Team:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just spoke to Steven.  We are going to list the cpu spike  
>>>>>>>>> issue in the release notes.  Lets run those tests and see  
>>>>>>>>> what is needed to get them all passing.  Last, can Thijs  
>>>>>>>>> and Joachim please stand up! ;)  We need to set some dates  
>>>>>>>>> for releasing this baby!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2008, at 11:43 PM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Team:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's recap what's left.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CPU spike issue
>>>>>>>>>> passing unit tests
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anything else needed for the release?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The load tester (src) is checked into the trunk btw..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2008 10:34 PM, Luke Hubbard  
>>>>>>>>>>> <luke at codegent.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Steven
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes please do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Luke
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/08, Steven Gong < steven.gong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Luke,
>>>>>>>>>>> If you need Paul's load tester for the test, I can send a  
>>>>>>>>>>> copy to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2008 7:34 AM, Dan Rossi  
>>>>>>>>>>> <spam at electroteque.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul's load tester flex app is a good one to use but i  
>>>>>>>>>>> dont think its accurate enough. I have tested the same  
>>>>>>>>>>> app against FMS and Wowza and there was only 5% cpu used  
>>>>>>>>>>> maximum.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/01/2008, at 7:43 PM, Steven Gong wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2008 4:27 PM, Luke Hubbard <  
>>>>>>>>>>>> luke at codegent.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will try to test with a profiler see what is eating  
>>>>>>>>>>>> all that CPU.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is for VOD right, not live? Or both?
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the VOD streaming and can be reproduced by a  
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple load test VOD playback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Luke
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/21/08, Dan Rossi < spam at electroteque.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Less than that before its reaching 100% cpu. aparantly i  
>>>>>>>>>>>> go away on a break and everything goes down. It might be  
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking like we might have to jump onto the wowza  
>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwagon :\
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/01/2008, at 9:55 AM, Dominick Accattato wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you saying that the core can only handle 50-80  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> concurrent connections?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great, i added the preliminary task in there but didnt  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get much responses about it at first :D Should we add  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back in the option to either compile javadoc in a full  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution task or not, that was added in as a  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestion from steve but was removed. It does reduce  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the recompile time alot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the major one that i know of is the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance problems somewhere in the core, its maxing  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out at 50-80 concurrents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/01/2008, at 3:15 AM, Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we plan to inform users of the edge/origin  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features, we will also need to get those parts of the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build script ironed-out before the release as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2008 4:52 AM, Lenny Sorey <  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lrsorey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Joachim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome back!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to see your return.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope things are well with these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lenny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/17/08, Dominick Accattato <  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daccattato at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Team:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to give Joachim a warm welcome back.  We  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missed ya!  Everyone has done a great job pushing  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red5 forward from the 0.6 release.  In preparation of  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release of 0.7, I'd like to get a few more fixes  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in.  If we can, lets try to get this stuff done asap  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that we can get 0.7 out the door.  Here is what I  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find to be of importance for this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.red5.org/browse/APPSERVER-184
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amf3 synchronization issue with SharedObjects (I will  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide Joachim with a test app)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix our tests since Paul noticed many of them are  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone can think of any other important fixes,  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list them so that we can look into their priority.   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks team!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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